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smart project builder - odd results |
Posted by: theresamarie11 - 2024-01-30, 06:32 PM - Forum: Beginners Forum
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A few things about smart project builder.
I wanted to see how it compared to my own project of IC410, the tadpoles. So I entered my imaging system, filters, etc. Used the search tool to find some targets in target selection. Then entered the smart project builder.
First thing, instead of opening with all of the things I had selected in the target tool like location, imaging scope, etc, smart project builder opens with some default items which are totally different (maybe authors stuff). So first thing you need to do is reset everything to what you have already selected in the target selection tool. They should be carried over, to make the tool smart. I agree you should be able to edit them, but they should at least be the same as in the target selection tool.
Next thing, all of the sub exposures, for every filter, are 20 minutes (my max exposure time) when I set total exposure time to 5 hours (I guess this is per filter). L, R, G, B, Ha, SII, OIII.. every one is 20 minutes sub-exposure. I'm not sure how useful that is.
As a sub note here, when you have multiple filters, you should allow a range of possible exposure times per filter... because narrow band may be 20 minutes, but I'd never see doing a luminance image for 20 minutes. And the SNRs aren't balanced across filters, just maximum for what 20 minute exposure gives for each filter.
But If you instead set SNR quality, which is exclusive of setting time per filter, then you get more reasonable exposure times, but you can no longer set total exposure time, you just get the amount of time to hit an SNR, which I'm not clear is all that useful from a practical standpoint. The Tadpoles are primarily a narrowband target. A lot of Ha, and much dimmer OIII, and get RGB for stars. In this case, the smallest exposure time is for Ha which is really going to make your object, and the longest for SII. I'm not sure I'd run things this way for a pleasing image. Not doing science here, just looking for a pleasing image. It recommends G at 70 minutes and Ha at 20 minutes, SII for 240 minutes, OIII for 30 minutes, and so on. OIII in this object needs much longer exposures than 10 minutes because the signal is so low, so this doesn't match my experience. Why is that? Now I understand that this is to hit an fixed single SNR for all filters. Just wondering how practical it is. For star data only, you need minimal time and exposures such that you don't blow out stars. Maybe there should be a setting for this kind of an image. It's really SNR for stars much of the time when you take RGB for narrowband targets.
Total exposure time. I set this to 5 hours but at first I didn't realize it's per filter, not total for the object. Every filter is set for 15x20 minutes, or 5 hours. I thought I'd get some mix of exposures to fit within an imaging time. Just setting them all to the same total exposure, not sure how useful this is. Is there a way to set total imaging time. Say I'm at a star party, I wanted to image this object and it's going to be up for 8 hours, is there a way to get an optimized use of that time?
Total object exposure: I'm wondering if it makes sense to have a total imaging time (that you have).. and what's the best mix or exposures to fit into that and show the maximum object SNR you can get.
Gain. Gain seems fixed, so while I have 2 different gains, one 0 and one 100, it just uses whatever you pick. Might make sense to pick intelligently as I'm not really clear with the ASI6200 when to use gain 0 and use mostly gain 100.
I haven't had the tool for long, so apologize if I'm not using it correctly. Entirely willing to learn. It's why I entered this in newbie area.
Thanks,
Terri
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