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ST 4 and Touchscreen - Ullomat - 2019-10-14

Hi,

while waiting for ST 4 visual, I am looking for a touch device to use it with ST 4 at the scope. I think it will be a Microsoft Surface. 
I did not use ST 3 with a touch device so far. 
Does anybody use ST 4 (Imaging) with a touch device? Do I need a pen or is it usable with normal "touching"?
I already have a red thin film which does not affect the touch functionality. 

Thanks for any info and always cs,
Uli


RE: ST 4 and Touchscreen - theskyhound - 2019-10-14

Hello,

I'm always looking for feedback on touch with ST4 as well, and it will be one of the things we will focus on in the upcoming ST4 Visual beta test. Microsoft did a pretty good job of translating touch in Windows, so most things already work in ST3. For ST4 I have done small things, like make the buttons larger and more friendly to push.

As far as a Surface goes, it will run ST4 very well, but for ST4 it is overkill. A lot of people prefer a lower-end device for use in the field because of the sometimes harsh outdoor conditions. I'm still using an old Dell tablet. As long as I don't make my observing list too long, it does just fine.


RE: ST 4 and Touchscreen - obrazell - 2019-10-15

My experience, particularly with the Surface Pro 3, has been that to really make use of SkyTools unless you have very thin fingers you are going to require either the mouse or a pen. The screen area is too tight in many case for a finger. The same really applies to ST4I which I guess will be basically the same type of screen layout as ST4V. I must admit I don't use a tablet a the scope so my Surface runs much more than just ST3.

Owen


RE: ST 4 and Touchscreen - semiosteve - 2019-10-16

(2019-10-15, 02:17 PM)obrazell Wrote: My experience, particularly with the Surface Pro 3, has been that to really make use of SkyTools unless you have very thin fingers you are going to require either the mouse or a pen. The screen area is too tight in many case for a finger. The same really applies to ST4I which I guess will be basically the same type of screen layout as ST4V. I must admit I don't use a tablet a the scope so my Surface runs much more than just ST3.

Owen

Regretably I agree. I've tried fingers and stylii (on a windows based tablet) and SkyTools really works best with a mouse. In fact, at night, I've found I may have to use the magnifier to work effectively with ST at night.


RE: ST 4 and Touchscreen - theskyhound - 2019-10-16

(2019-10-16, 08:50 PM)semiosteve Wrote:
(2019-10-15, 02:17 PM)obrazell Wrote: My experience, particularly with the Surface Pro 3, has been that to really make use of SkyTools unless you have very thin fingers you are going to require either the mouse or a pen. The screen area is too tight in many case for a finger. The same really applies to ST4I which I guess will be basically the same type of screen layout as ST4V. I must admit I don't use a tablet a the scope so my Surface runs much more than just ST3.

Owen

Regretably I agree. I've tried fingers and stylii (on a windows based tablet) and SkyTools really works best with a mouse. In fact, at night, I've found I may have to use the magnifier to work effectively with ST at night.

Steve, which SkyTools are you talking about and what device you are using? The resolution and screen size make a lot of difference. And have you tried enlarging screen items and fonts? That's the preferred solution when things are too small on your screen.